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[BOAI] Copyright (or left) issues, a question

From: Peter Murray <peter.j.murray AT btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2003 12:00:15 +0100


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             Re: [BOAI] Copyright (or left) issues, a question from harnad AT ecs.soton.ac.uk
             Re: [BOAI] Copyright (or left) issues, a question from sseaprod AT bigpond.net.au

A question/issue that I think is relevant to discussions on this list, and 
that I would like to try and get some opinions, or guidance, on.

If we are talking about, and promoting, ideas of open access etc., where do 
we as a group, or individuals stand, on the issue of signing over copyright 
of their work to other organisations, eg publishers, conference organisers, 
etc? I ask as it is an issue I have faced recently, and which I feel will 
increasingly cause problems.

While we want to get discussion of open access etc into a wider forum, can 
we, morally, then say in articles where we are promoting open access that 
we will give up our copyright to the publishers etc? - or do we just 
swallow our principles?

Has anyone else faced similar situations, and how have they tackled it? - 
on the occasion in question, the conference organisers were happy for me to 
give them permission to use the materials under GNU GPL.

Cheers, Peter Murray



Re: [BOAI] Copyright (or left) issues, a question

From: Stevan Harnad <harnad AT ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 12:00:57 +0100 (BST)


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See the Project Romeo site:

http://www.lboro.ac.uk/departments/ls/disresearch/romeo/index.html

and also:

http://www.eprints.org/self-faq/#copyright1

On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Peter Murray wrote:

> A question/issue that I think is relevant to discussions on this list, and 

> that I would like to try and get some opinions, or guidance, on.
> 
> If we are talking about, and promoting, ideas of open access etc., where 
do 
> we as a group, or individuals stand, on the issue of signing over 
copyright 
> of their work to other organisations, eg publishers, conference 
organisers, 
> etc? I ask as it is an issue I have faced recently, and which I feel will 
> increasingly cause problems.
> 
> While we want to get discussion of open access etc into a wider forum, can 

> we, morally, then say in articles where we are promoting open access that 
> we will give up our copyright to the publishers etc? - or do we just 
> swallow our principles?
> 
> Has anyone else faced similar situations, and how have they tackled it? - 
> on the occasion in question, the conference organisers were happy for me 
to 
> give them permission to use the materials under GNU GPL.


Re: [BOAI] Copyright (or left) issues, a question

From: "Siegfried Angerer" <sseaprod AT bigpond.net.au>
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 23:14:43 +1000


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Greetings
Reply to "Peter Murray" <peter.j.murray AT btinternet.com>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: [BOAI] Copyright (or left) issues, a question

Yes! The issue raised its head throughout the Copyright discussion forum
more than 12 month ago.
As an online content producer, developer, writer etc, I faced the issue as
early as 1995. The bottom line is the first simple question you have to ask
yourself - what and how much are you prepared to give away for nothing.
The second simple question is - who else owns a stake, or can in some way
make a claim on your intellectually rights or property ( the two things are
distinct and separate ) "Note in most cases your University employer 
claims
that the wage paid to you, delivers an unchallengeable ownership claim and a
subsequent right to commercialise the fruits of your labour in any way it
sees fit. (???)
The third simple question is - what are your own intentions - Journal
articles are often delivered for academic prestige, peer recognition and
related reasons of academic advancement, or even for the less selfless among
us - the sheer delight in furthering human knowledge. So what is it you wish
to achieve and why?
Regards
Siegfried Angerer
Director SEA Pty Ltd (R&D Trust - specialists in online distributed 
learning
and teaching)



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Peter Murray" <peter.j.murray AT btinternet.com>
To: <boai-forum AT ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 9:00 PM
Subject: [BOAI] Copyright (or left) issues, a question


> A question/issue that I think is relevant to discussions on this list, and
> that I would like to try and get some opinions, or guidance, on.
>
> If we are talking about, and promoting, ideas of open access etc., where
do
> we as a group, or individuals stand, on the issue of signing over
copyright
> of their work to other organisations, eg publishers, conference
organisers,
> etc? I ask as it is an issue I have faced recently, and which I feel will
> increasingly cause problems.
>
> While we want to get discussion of open access etc into a wider forum, can
> we, morally, then say in articles where we are promoting open access that
> we will give up our copyright to the publishers etc? - or do we just
> swallow our principles?
>
> Has anyone else faced similar situations, and how have they tackled it? -
> on the occasion in question, the conference organisers were happy for me
to
> give them permission to use the materials under GNU GPL.
>
> Cheers, Peter Murray
>
>



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