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[BOAI] Re: [GOAL] Re: May 27: 10-year Anniversary of Elsevier Green OA (No Embargo) Policy

From: Stevan Harnad <amsciforum AT gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 27 May 2014 12:43:53 -0400


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On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Wise, Alicia (ELS-OXF) <
A.Wise AT elsevier.com> wrote:

Hi Stevan,
>
> I must confess to being utterly perplexed by this email. Elsevier's
> policies have not changed (though we are reflecting and reviewing, as
> always) so is it that Romeo has changed the way it classifies our existin=
g
> policies?  Very interested in learning  more...
>
> With kind wishes,
>
> Alicia
>
> Dr Alicia Wise
> Director of Access and Policy
> Elsevier
>

Hi Alicia,

I agree completely that Elsevier's Green OA No-Embargo Policy has not
changed at all from the way Karen formulated it 10 years ago:

"*An author may post his version of the final paper on his personal web
site and on his institution's web site (including its institutional
respository). Each posting should include the article's citation and a link
to the journal's home page (or the article's DOI). The author does not need
our permission to do this, but any other posting (e.g. to a repository
elsewhere) would require our permission. By "his version" we are 
referring
to his Word or Tex file, not a PDF or HTML downloaded from ScienceDirect -
but the author can update his version to reflect changes made during the
refereeing and editing process. Elsevier will continue to be the
single, definitive archive for the formal published version*."


But SHERPA Romeo is classifying the Policy correctly as Green (and for some
Elsevier journals "Blue," *which actually also means Green!* But 
because of
Romeo's absurd colour scheme, "Romeo Blue" means that the refereed 
final
draft can be immediately self-archived without embargo, whereas "Romeo
Green" is reserved for when both the refereed final draft *and* the
pre-refereeing draft can be immediately self-archived -- which is utterly
irrelevant for OA, and caused needless and endless confusion, being at odds
with the way "Green OA" is now universally used!)

Publisher (linked to the full RoMEO details)RoMEO ColourDefault PoliciesJou=
rnal
ListElsevier<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D30&fIDnum=3D%7C&=
mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den>
GreenDefault 
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um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D30&letter=3DA>
- *Cancer Treatment Communications
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1506&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1506&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1506&letter=3DALL>
- *Creative Commons
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1504&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1504&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1504&letter=3DALL>
- *Current Therapeutic Research
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1507&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1507&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1507&letter=3DALL>
- *FEBS Open Bio
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1500&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1500&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1500&letter=3DALL>
- *Journal of Cancer Policy
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1509&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1509&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1509&letter=3DALL>
- *Lancet
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1274&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
BlueSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1274&fIDnu=
m=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1274&letter=3DALL>
- *Physics of the Dark Universe
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1503&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1503&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1503&letter=3DALL>
- *Results in Physics
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1508&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1508&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1508&letter=3DALL>
- *SCOAP3
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1810&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
GreenSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1810&fIDn=
um=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>[image:
No 
information]Elsevier<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D131&f=
IDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den>
(Cell
Press)BlueDefault
Policies<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D131&fIDnum=3D%7C&mod=
e=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D131&letter=3DALL>
- *OAJ
<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1468&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=3Dsim=
ple&la=3Den>*
BlueSpecial 
Policy<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1468&fIDnu=
m=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D1468&letter=3DALL>Elsevier
Espa=C3=B1a<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D990&fIDnum=3D%7C&=
mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den>
(Elsevier
Doyma)GreenDefault
Policies<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D990&fIDnum=3D%7C&mod=
e=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D990&letter=3DA>Elsevier
Masson<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D265&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&la=3Den>
GreenDefault 
Policies<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D265&fID=
num=3D%7C&mode=3Dsimple&la=3Den&format=3Dfull>Journal
list<http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&fIDnum=3D%7C&mode=
=3Dsimple&id=3D265&letter=3DA>



But I also have to add that some of the confusion is caused by Elsevier's
more recent attempts to add some pseudo-legal hedges to its Green OA
policy, to the effect that Elsevier's authors retain the right to do
everything Karen specified in 2004 *except if they are required to exercise
that right (by their institutions)*, in which they may not do it.

That is every bit as absurd as SHERPA's green/blue distinction, and can and
should also be ignored by all authors. But you wanted to learn more...

I think that today, the 10th anniversary of the Elsevier Green OA Policy,
would be an excellent day to publicly scrap the empty hedges and re-assert
the very progressive and constructive Elsevier Policy as it was and is. The
hedges just cause gratuitous confusion and are very bad for Elsevier's
image...

With best wishes,

Stevan Harnad


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>From GOAL's predecessor, the American Scientist Open Access Forum, May 27
> 2004 
<http://users.ecs.soton.ac.uk/harnad/Hypermail/Amsci/3771.html>:
>
>   Elsevier Gives Authors Green Light for Open Access Self-Archiving
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>  From: Stevan Harnad 
<harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk<harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk=
?Subject=3DRe%3A%20Elsevier%20Gives%20Authors%20Green%20Light%20for%20Open%=
20Access%20Self-Archiving>
> >
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 23:51:58 +0100
>
> Elsevier has just gone from being a Romeo "Pale-Green" publisher 
to a ful=
l
> Romeo Green publisher: Authors have the publisher's official green light
> to
> self-archive both their pre-refereeing preprints and their refereed
> postprints.
>
> Elsevier has thereby demonstrated that -- whatever its pricing policy
> may be -- it is a publisher that has heeded the need and the expressed
> desire of the research community for Open Access (OA) and its benefits to
> research productivity and progress.
> http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/accessdebate/21.html
>
> There will be the predictable cavils from the pedants and those who
> have never understood the real meaning and nature of OA: "It's only 
the
> final refereed draft, not the publisher's PDF," "It does not 
include
> republishing rights," "Elsevier is still not an OA 
publisher."
>
> I, for one, am prepared to stoutly defend Elsevier on all these counts,
> and to say that one could not have asked for more, and that the full
> benefits of OA require not one bit more -- from the publisher.
>
> For now it's down to you, Dear Researchers! Elsevier (and History)
> is hereafter fully within its rights to say:
>
>     "If Open Access is truly as important to researchers as they 
claim it
>     is -- indeed as 30,000+ signatories to the PLoS Open Letter attested
>     that it was http://www.publiclibraryofscience.org/cgi-bin/plosSign.pl
>  --
>     then if researchers are not now ready to *provide* that Open Access,
>     even when given the publisher's official green light to do so,
>     then there is every reason to doubt that they mean (or even know)
>     what they are saying when they clamour for Open Access."
>
> Elsevier publishes 1,700+ journals. That means at least 200,000 articles
> a year. Eprints.org will be carefully quantifying and tracking what
> proportion of those 200,000 articles is made OA by their authors through
> self-archiving across the next few months and years. Indeed we will be
> monitoring all of the over 80% of journals sampled by Romeo that are
> already green.
>
> (The following Romeo summary stats are already out of date, because 1700
> pale-green journals have now become bright green!
> http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Temp/Romeo/romeosum.html
> but we will soon catch up at: http://romeo.eprints.org/ [which is
> under construction, waiting for full journal lists from each of the 93
> publishers sampled so far].)
>
> The OA ball is now clearly in the research community's court (not the
> publishing community's, not the library community's). Let researchers
> and their employers and funders now all rise to the occasion by
> adopting and implementing institutional OA provision policies. Don't
> just sign petitions for publishers to provide OA, but commit your own
> institution to providing it:
>
> http://www.eprints.org/signup/sign.php
>
> Stevan Harnad
>
> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:09:39 +0100
> From: "Hunter, Karen (ELS-US)" <k.hunterelsevier.com>
> To: "'harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk'" 
<harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk>
> Cc: "Karssen, Zeger (ELS)" <Z.Karssen_at_elsevier.nl>,
>      "Bolman, Pieter (ELS)" <P.Bolman_at_elsevier.com>,
>      "Seeley, Mark (ELS)" <m.seeley_at_elsevier.com>
> Subject: Re: Elsevier journal list
>
> Stevan,
>
> [H]ere is what we have decided on post-"prints" (i.e. published 
articles,
> whether published electronically or in print):
>
> An author may post his version of the final paper on his personal web sit=
e
> and on his institution's web site (including its institutional
> respository).
> Each posting should include the article's citation and a link to the
> journal's home page (or the article's DOI). The author does not need our
> permission to do this, but any other posting (e.g. to a repository
> elsewhere) would require our permission. By "his version" we are 
referrin=
g
> to his Word or Tex file, not a PDF or HTML downloaded from ScienceDirect =
-
> but the author can update his version to reflect changes made during the
> refereeing and editing process. Elsevier will continue to be the single,
> definitive archive for the formal published version.
>
> We will be gradually updating any public information on our policies
> (including our copyright forms and all information on our web site) to ge=
t
> it all consistent.
>
> Karen
>
> Karen Hunter
> Senior Vice President, Strategy
> Elsevier
> +1-212-633-3787
> k.hunter_at_elsevier.com
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Tue, May 27, 2014 at 10:05 AM, Wise, Alicia 
(ELS-OXF)=
=C2=A0<span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a 
href=3D"mailto:A.Wise AT elsevier.com" target=
=3D"_blank">A.Wise AT 
elsevier.com</a>&gt;</span>=C2=A0wrote:<div><br><div cla=
ss=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 
0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto"><div>Hi 
Stevan,</div><div><br></div><div=
>I must confess to being utterly perplexed by this email. Elsevier&#39;s 
po=
licies have not changed (though we are reflecting and reviewing, as always)=
 so is it that Romeo has changed the way it classifies our existing policie=
s? =C2=A0Very interested in learning=C2=A0 more...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With kind 
wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Alicia</div>=
<div><br></div><div>Dr Alicia 
Wise</div><div>Director of Access and Policy<=
/div><div>Elsevier<br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Alici=
a,</div>
<div><br></div><div>I agree completely that 
Elsevier&#39;s Green OA No-Emba=
rgo Policy has not changed at all from the way Karen formulated it 10 years=
 ago:</div><div><br></div></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0=
px 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div 
class=3D"gmail_quote">&quot;<i>An author ma=
y post his version of the final paper on his personal web site and on his i=
nstitution&#39;s web site (including its institutional respository). Each 
p=
osting should include the article&#39;s citation and a link to the 
journal&=
#39;s home page (or the article&#39;s DOI). The author does not need our 
pe=
rmission to do this, but any other posting (e.g. to a repository elsewhere)=
 would require our permission. By &quot;his version&quot; we are 
referring =
to his Word or Tex file, not a PDF or HTML downloaded from ScienceDirect - =
but the author can update his version to reflect changes made during the re=
fereeing and editing process. Elsevier will continue to be the single,=C2=
=A0definitive archive for the formal published version</i>.&quot; 
=C2=A0</d=
iv>
</div></blockquote><div 
class=3D"gmail_extra"><div 
class=3D"gmail_quote"><d=
iv><br></div><div>But SHERPA Romeo is classifying the 
Policy correctly as G=
reen (and for some Elsevier journals 
&quot;Blue,&quot;=C2=A0<i>which actual=
ly also means Green!</i>=C2=A0But because of Romeo&#39;s absurd 
colour sche=
me, &quot;Romeo Blue&quot; means that the refereed final draft can be 
immed=
iately self-archived without embargo, whereas &quot;Romeo Green&quot; 
is re=
served for when both the refereed final 
draft=C2=A0<i>and</i>=C2=A0the pre-=
refereeing draft can be immediately self-archived -- which is utterly irrel=
evant for OA, and caused needless and endless confusion, being at odds with=
 the way &quot;Green OA&quot; is now universally used!)</div>
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style=3D"background-color:rgb(245,245,245)"><tbody><tr><th w=
idth=3D"50%" style=3D"border:1px solid white">
Publisher (linked to the full RoMEO details)</th><th 
width=3D"15%" style=3D=
"border:1px solid white">RoMEO Colour</th><th 
width=3D"20%" style=3D"border=
:1px solid white">Default Policies</th><th 
width=3D"15%" style=3D"border:1p=
x solid white">
Journal List</th></tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px 
solid white"><a name=3D"1=
463e7befe7f9c4b_30"></a><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php=
?id=3D30&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_blank" =
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Elsevier</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D30&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C=
&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Default Policies</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D30&amp;letter=3DA" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,15=
0)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
506">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1506&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Cancer Treatment 
Communications</a></i>=
</td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1506&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1506&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
504">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1504&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Creative 
Commons</a></i></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1504&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1504&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
507">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1507&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Current Therapeutic 
Research</a></i></t=
d>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1507&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1507&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
500">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1500&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">FEBS Open 
Bio</a></i></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1500&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1500&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
509">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1509&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Journal of Cancer 
Policy</a></i></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1509&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1509&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
274">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1274&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Lancet</a></i></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D3ECFA" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive post-print (ie final draft 
post-refereeing)" styl=
e=3D"font-size:0.8em">Blue</span></td><td 
align=3D"center" style=3D"border:=
1px solid white">
<a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1274&amp;fIDnum=3D=
%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special 
Policy</a></td><td align=3D"center" sty=
le=3D"border:1px solid white">
<a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D=
%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;id=3D1274&amp;letter=3DALL" 
target=3D"_blank" sty=
le=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Journal 
list</a></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"bor=
der:1px solid white">
<a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1503">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1503&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimpl=
e&amp;la=3Den" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Physics of=
 the Dark Universe</a></i></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1503&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1503&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
508">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1508&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Results in 
Physics</a></i></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1508&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1508&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1=
810">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.p=
hp?id=3D1810&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_bla=
nk" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">SCOAP3</a></i></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1810&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><img src=3D"http://ww=
w.sherpa.ac.uk/images/hyphen15.gif" width=3D"15" 
height=3D"15" align=3D"abs=
middle" alt=3D"No 
information"></td></tr><tr><td 
style=3D"border:1px solid =
white"><a name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_131"></a><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac=
.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D131&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3De=
n" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Elsevier</a>=C2=A0(Cel=
l Press)</td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D3ECFA" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive post-print (ie final draft 
post-refereeing)" styl=
e=3D"font-size:0.8em">Blue</span></td><td 
align=3D"center" style=3D"border:=
1px solid white">
<a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D131&amp;fIDnum=3D%=
7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Default 
Policies</a></td><td align=3D"center" st=
yle=3D"border:1px solid white">
<a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D=
%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;id=3D131&amp;letter=3DALL" 
target=3D"_blank" styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Journal 
list</a></td></tr><tr><td style=3D"bord=
er:1px solid white">
<a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_1468">-=C2=A0<i></i></a><i><a href=3D"http://ww=
w.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D1468&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimpl=
e&amp;la=3Den" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">OAJ</a></i=
></td><td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D3ECFA" 
style=3D"border:1px solid wh=
ite">
<span title=3D"Can archive post-print (ie final draft 
post-refereeing)" sty=
le=3D"font-size:0.8em">Blue</span></td><td 
align=3D"center" style=3D"border=
:1px solid white"><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D=
1468&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" targ=
et=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Special 
Policy</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D1468&amp;letter=3DALL" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,6=
1,150)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_9=
90"></a><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D990&amp;fI=
Dnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:=
rgb(101,61,150)">Elsevier Espa=C3=B1a</a>=C2=A0(Elsevier 
Doyma)</td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D990&amp;fIDnum=3D%7=
C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Default Policies</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D990&amp;letter=3DA" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,1=
50)">Journal list</a></td>
</tr><tr><td style=3D"border:1px solid white"><a 
name=3D"1463e7befe7f9c4b_2=
65"></a><a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D265&amp;fI=
Dnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den" 
target=3D"_blank" style=3D"color:=
rgb(101,61,150)">Elsevier Masson</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" bgcolor=3D"#D0F9D2" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
span title=3D"Can archive pre-print and post-print" 
style=3D"font-size:0.8e=
m">Green</span></td><td align=3D"center" 
style=3D"border:1px solid white"><=
a 
href=3D"http://www.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/search.php?id=3D265&amp;fIDnum=3D%7=
C&amp;mode=3Dsimple&amp;la=3Den&amp;format=3Dfull" 
target=3D"_blank" style=
=3D"color:rgb(101,61,150)">Default Policies</a></td>
<td align=3D"center" style=3D"border:1px solid 
white"><a href=3D"http://www=
.sherpa.ac.uk/romeo/journals.php?la=3Den&amp;fIDnum=3D%7C&amp;mode=3Dsimple=
&amp;id=3D265&amp;letter=3DA" target=3D"_blank" 
style=3D"color:rgb(101,61,1=
50)">Journal list</a><br>
<br></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div><br></di=
v><div><br></div><div>But I also have to add that 
some of the confusion is =
caused by Elsevier&#39;s more recent attempts to add some pseudo-legal 
hedg=
es to its Green OA policy, to the effect that Elsevier&#39;s authors 
retain=
 the right to do everything Karen specified in 2004=C2=A0<i>except if 
they =
are required to exercise that right (by their institutions)</i>, in which 
t=
hey may not do it.</div>
<div><br></div><div>That is every bit as absurd as 
SHERPA&#39;s green/blue =
distinction, and can and should also be ignored by all authors. But you wan=
ted to learn more...</div><div><br></div><div>I 
think that today, the 10th =
anniversary of the Elsevier Green OA Policy, would be an excellent day to p=
ublicly scrap the empty hedges and re-assert the very progressive and const=
ructive Elsevier Policy as it was and is. The hedges just cause gratuitous =
confusion and are very bad for Elsevier&#39;s image...</div>
<div><br></div><div>With best 
wishes,</div><div><br></div><div>Stevan Harna=
d</div><div><br></div><div><ol 
style=3D"margin:0px;padding:0px;border:0px;f=
ont-family:arial,sans-serif"><li style=3D"margin:0px 0px 
23px;padding:0px;b=
order:0px;line-height:1.2;list-style:none">
<h3 
style=3D"font-weight:normal;margin:0px;padding-top:0px;padding-right:0p=
x;padding-left:0px;overflow:hidden;text-overflow:ellipsis;white-space:nowra=
p"><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 
40px;border:none;padding:0px"><p=
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90)">
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,33)"><font><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/."=
>openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/.</a>..<b>Elsevier</b>...<b>Dou=
ble</b>...<b>Green</b>...</font></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(84,84=
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ht:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(30,35,190)"><a 
href=3D"http://openacc=
ess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/888-How-Elsevier-Can-Improve-Its-Public=
-Image.html"><font>How=C2=A0<b>Elsevier</b>=C2=A0Can 
Improve Its Public Ima=
ge</font></a></p>
<p 
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,33)"><font><a 
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8-How-">openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/888-How-</a><b>Elsevier<=
/b>-Can...</font></p>
<p 
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28,128);min-height:12px"><font><b></b><br></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px=
;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(30,35,190)"><a 
href=3D"http=
://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/895-Elseviers-Public-Image-Pr=
oblem.html"><font><b>Elsevier&#39;s</b>=C2=A0Public Image Problem=C2=A0</fo=
nt></a></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,102=
,33)"><font><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/89=
5-">openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/895-</a><b>Elseviers</b>-Pub=
lic...html</font></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(128,1=
28,128);min-height:12px"><font><b></b><br></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px=
;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(30,35,190)"><a 
href=3D"http=
://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1091-Institutions-Funders-Ign=
ore-Elsevier-Take-Down-Notices-and-Mandate-Immediate-Deposit.html"><font>In=
stitutions &amp; Funders: 
Ignore=C2=A0<b>Elsevier</b>=C2=A0Take-Down Notice=
s=C2=A0<b>...</b></font></a></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,102=
,33)"><font><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/10=
91.">openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1091.</a>..<b>Elsevier</b>-=
Take...</font></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(128,1=
28,128);min-height:12px"><font><b></b><br></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px=
;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(30,35,190)"><a 
href=3D"http=
://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/961-Some-Quaint-Elsevier-Terg=
iversation-on-Rights-Retention.html"><font>Some 
Quaint=C2=A0<b>Elsevier</b>=
=C2=A0Tergiversation on Rights 
Retention=C2=A0<b>...</b></font></a></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,102=
,33)"><font><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/96=
1-Some.">openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/961-Some.</a>..<b>Elsev=
ier</b>...on...</font></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(128,1=
28,128);min-height:12px"><font><b></b><br></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px=
;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(30,35,190)"><a 
href=3D"http=
://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1012-Publisher-Double-Dealing=
-on-OA.html"><font>Publisher=C2=A0<b>Double</b>=C2=A0Dealing on OA</font></=
a></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,102=
,33)"><font><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/10=
12-Publisher-">openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1012-Publisher-</=
a><b>Double</b>...</font></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(128,1=
28,128);min-height:12px"><font><b></b><br></font></p><p style=3D"margin:0px=
;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,102,33)"><font><span styl=
e=3D"color:rgb(30,35,190)"><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.p=
hp?/archives/1060-Free-Will-and-Systematicity.html">Free Will and 
Systemati=
city - Open Access Archivangelism</a></span><span 
style=3D"color:rgb(35,35,=
35)"><br>
</span><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1060-Fr=
ee-Will-and...html">openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/1060-Free-Wi=
ll-and...html</a></font></p><p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-=
family:Arial;color:rgb(0,102,33)">
<a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/889-Elsevier-r=
equires-institutions-to-seek-Elseviers-agreement-to-require-their-authors-t=
o-exercise-their-rights.html"><font><b>Elsevier</b>=C2=A0requires instituti=
ons to seek=C2=A0<b>Elsevier&#39;s</b>=C2=A0agreement 
to=C2=A0<b>...</b></f=
ont></a></p>
<p 
style=3D"margin:0px;line-height:normal;font-family:Arial;color:rgb(0,102=
,33)"><font><a 
href=3D"http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/."=
>openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/.</a>..<b>Elsevier</b>...<b>Els=
eviers</b>...</font></p>
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>From</dfn>: Stevan Harnad &lt;<a 
href=3D"mailto:harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk?=
Subject=3DRe%3A%20Elsevier%20Gives%20Authors%20Green%20Light%20for%20Open%2=
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t;=C2=A0</span><br>

<span><dfn style=3D"font-weight:bold">Date</dfn>: 
Thu, 27 May 2004 23:51:58=
 +0100</span><br>
</address>
<br>
Elsevier has just gone from being a Romeo &quot;Pale-Green&quot; 
publisher =
to a full=C2=A0<br>
Romeo Green publisher: Authors have the publisher&#39;s official green 
ligh=
t to=C2=A0<br>
self-archive both their pre-refereeing preprints and their refereed=C2=A0<b=
r>
postprints.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Elsevier has thereby demonstrated that -- whatever its pricing policy=C2=A0=
<br>
may be -- it is a publisher that has heeded the need and the expressed=C2=
=A0<br>
desire of the research community for Open Access (OA) and its benefits to=
=C2=A0<br>
research productivity and progress.=C2=A0<br>
<a 
href=3D"http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/accessdebate/21.html" 
target=
=3D"_blank">http://www.nature.com/nature/focus/accessdebate/21.html</a>=C2=
=A0<br>
<br>
There will be the predictable cavils from the pedants and those who=C2=A0<b=
r>
have never understood the real meaning and nature of OA: &quot;It&#39;s 
onl=
y the=C2=A0<br>
final refereed draft, not the publisher&#39;s PDF,&quot; &quot;It 
does not =
include=C2=A0<br>
republishing rights,&quot; &quot;Elsevier is still not an OA 
publisher.&quo=
t;=C2=A0<br>
<br>
I, for one, am prepared to stoutly defend Elsevier on all these counts,=C2=
=A0<br>
and to say that one could not have asked for more, and that the full=C2=A0<=
br>
benefits of OA require not one bit more -- from the publisher.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
For now it&#39;s down to you, Dear Researchers! Elsevier (and History)=C2=
=A0<br>
is hereafter fully within its rights to say:=C2=A0<br>
<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0&quot;If Open Access is truly as important to 
resea=
rchers as they claim it=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0is -- indeed as 30,000+ signatories to the PLoS Ope=
n Letter attested=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0that it was=C2=A0<a 
href=3D"http://www.publiclibrar=
yofscience.org/cgi-bin/plosSign.pl" 
target=3D"_blank">http://www.publiclibr=
aryofscience.org/cgi-bin/plosSign.pl</a>=C2=A0--=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0then if researchers are not now ready to *provide* =
that Open Access,=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0even when given the publisher&#39;s official green 
=
light to do so,=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0then there is every reason to doubt that they mean =
(or even know)=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0what they are saying when they clamour for Open Acc=
ess.&quot;=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Elsevier publishes 1,700+ journals. That means at least 200,000 articles=C2=
=A0<br>
a year. <a href=3D"http://Eprints.org" 
target=3D"_blank">Eprints.org</a> wi=
ll be carefully quantifying and tracking what=C2=A0<br>
proportion of those 200,000 articles is made OA by their authors through=C2=
=A0<br>
self-archiving across the next few months and years. Indeed we will be=C2=
=A0<br>
monitoring all of the over 80% of journals sampled by Romeo that are=C2=A0<=
br>
already green.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
(The following Romeo summary stats are already out of date, because 1700=C2=
=A0<br>
pale-green journals have now become bright green!=C2=A0<br>
<a 
href=3D"http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Temp/Romeo/romeosum.html" 
tar=
get=3D"_blank">http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~harnad/Temp/Romeo/romeosum.html<=
/a>=C2=A0<br>
but we will soon catch up at:=C2=A0<a 
href=3D"http://romeo.eprints.org/" ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://romeo.eprints.org/</a>=C2=A0[which 
is=C2=A0<br>
under construction, waiting for full journal lists from each of the 93=C2=
=A0<br>
publishers sampled so far].)=C2=A0<br>
<br>
The OA ball is now clearly in the research community&#39;s court (not the=
=C2=A0<br>
publishing community&#39;s, not the library community&#39;s). Let 
researche=
rs=C2=A0<br>
and their employers and funders now all rise to the occasion by=C2=A0<br>
adopting and implementing institutional OA provision policies. 
Don&#39;t=C2=
=A0<br>
just sign petitions for publishers to provide OA, but commit your own=C2=A0=
<br>
institution to providing it:=C2=A0<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.eprints.org/signup/sign.php" 
target=3D"_blank">http:/=
/www.eprints.org/signup/sign.php</a>=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Stevan Harnad=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 03:09:39 +0100=C2=A0<br>
From: &quot;Hunter, Karen (ELS-US)&quot; &lt;<a 
href=3D"http://k.hunterelse=
vier.com" 
target=3D"_blank">k.hunterelsevier.com</a>&gt;=C2=A0<br>
To: &quot;&#39;<a 
href=3D"http://harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk" target=3D"_blan=
k">harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>&#39;&quot; &lt;<a 
href=3D"http://harnad_at=
_ecs.soton.ac.uk" 
target=3D"_blank">harnad_at_ecs.soton.ac.uk</a>&gt;=C2=A0=
<br>
Cc: &quot;Karssen, Zeger (ELS)&quot; &lt;<a 
href=3D"http://Z.Karssen_at_els=
evier.nl" 
target=3D"_blank">Z.Karssen_at_elsevier.nl</a>&gt;,=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0&quot;Bolman, Pieter (ELS)&quot; 
&lt;<a href=
=3D"http://P.Bolman_at_elsevier.com" 
target=3D"_blank">P.Bolman_at_elsevier=
.com</a>&gt;,=C2=A0<br>
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0&quot;Seeley, Mark (ELS)&quot; 
&lt;<a href=3D=
"http://m.seeley_at_elsevier.com" 
target=3D"_blank">m.seeley_at_elsevier.co=
m</a>&gt;=C2=A0<br>
Subject: Re: Elsevier journal list=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Stevan,=C2=A0<br>
<br>
[H]ere is what we have decided on post-&quot;prints&quot; (i.e. 
published a=
rticles,=C2=A0<br>
whether published electronically or in print):=C2=A0<br>
<br>
An author may post his version of the final paper on his personal web site=
=C2=A0<br>
and on his institution&#39;s web site (including its institutional 
resposit=
ory).=C2=A0<br>
Each posting should include the article&#39;s citation and a link to 
the=C2=
=A0<br>
journal&#39;s home page (or the article&#39;s DOI). The author does not 
nee=
d our=C2=A0<br>
permission to do this, but any other posting (e.g. to a repository=C2=A0<br=
>
elsewhere) would require our permission. By &quot;his version&quot; we 
are =
referring=C2=A0<br>
to his Word or Tex file, not a PDF or HTML downloaded from ScienceDirect -=
=C2=A0<br>
but the author can update his version to reflect changes made during the=C2=
=A0<br>
refereeing and editing process. Elsevier will continue to be the single,=C2=
=A0<br>
definitive archive for the formal published version.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
We will be gradually updating any public information on our policies=C2=A0<=
br>
(including our copyright forms and all information on our web site) to get=
=C2=A0<br>
it all consistent.=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Karen=C2=A0<br>
<br>
Karen Hunter=C2=A0<br>
Senior Vice President, Strategy=C2=A0<br>
Elsevier=C2=A0<br>
<a href=3D"tel:%2B1-212-633-3787" value=3D"+12126333787" 
target=3D"_blank">=
+1-212-633-3787</a>=C2=A0<br>
<a href=3D"http://k.hunter_at_elsevier.com" 
target=3D"_blank">k.hunter_at_e=
lsevier.com</a>=C2=A0</div>
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