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[BOAI] Re: Elsevier's Philippe Terheggen on the state of Open Access: Where are we, what still needs to be done?

From: Peter Suber <peter.suber AT gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 16 Oct 2013 11:22:32 -0400


Threading: [BOAI] Elsevier's Philippe Terheggen on the state of Open Access: Where are we, what still needs to be done? from ricky AT richardpoynder.co.uk
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Hi Richard,

I'm glad to see you cover the evolution of Elsevier's green policy.

BTW, at one point you link to a Wayback-Machine copy of my June 2004
newsletter. But that issue is still available at its original URL.
http://www.earlham.edu/~peters/fos/newsletter/06-02-04.htm

You linked to that issue in order to link to my article, "Elsevier permits
postprint archiving." If you prefer, here's the copy of that article in 
the
Harvard repository.
http://nrs.harvard.edu/urn-3:HUL.InstRepos:4391311

     Best,
     Peter






On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Richard Poynder <ricky AT 
richardpoynder.co.u=
k
> wrote:

> A new Q&A in a series exploring the current state of Open Access has 
been
> published. This one is with Philippe Terheggen Director Journal Developme=
nt
> and Support at Elsevier. Terheggen, who is responsible for all 2,500 of
> Elsevier=92s journals, is the second representative of a traditional
> commercial publisher to take part in this series.****
>
> ** **
>
> As the largest legacy journal publisher, Elsevier tends to attract more
> criticism from the OA movement than other publishers. One could argue,
> however, that it has conspired in this by doing more than other publisher=
s
> to try to derail OA =97 not least by aggressively supporting the infamous
> Research Works Act (RWA) in 2011. Today, however, Elsevier accepts that O=
A
> has become mainstream, that it needs to embrace it, and that it may not
> turn out to be the monster that the publisher assumed it to be. As Philip=
pe
> Terheggen says in the Q&A, =93In my opinion, we=92re past the notion 
of O=
A as a
> threat to publishers as there are many examples of OA publishers who run =
a
> perfectly healthy business.=94****
>
> ** **
>
> The  Q&A can be read here:****
>
> ** **
>
>
> http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/elseviers-philippe-terheggen-on-sta=
te.html
> ****
>
> ** **
>
>
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=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 16, 2013 at 9:00 AM, Richard Poynder 
<span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ricky AT 
richardpoynder.co.uk" target=3D"_blank=
">ricky AT richardpoynder.co.uk</a>&gt;</span> 
wrote:<br>

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bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">

A new Q&amp;A in a series exploring the current state of Open Access has 
be=
en published. This one is with Philippe Terheggen Director Journal Developm=
ent and Support at Elsevier. Terheggen, who is responsible for all 2,500 of=
 Elsevier=92s journals, is the second representative of a traditional comme=
rcial publisher to take part in this 
series.<u></u><u></u></p>

<p class=3D"MsoNormal" 
style=3D"margin-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;lin=
e-height:normal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margi=
n-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">As the largest 
legac=
y journal publisher, Elsevier tends to attract more criticism from the OA m=
ovement than other publishers. One could argue, however, that it has conspi=
red in this by doing more than other publishers to try to derail OA =97 not=
 least by aggressively supporting the infamous Research Works Act (RWA) in =
2011. Today, however, Elsevier accepts that OA has become mainstream, that =
it needs to embrace it, and that it may not turn out to be the monster that=
 the publisher assumed it to be. As Philippe Terheggen says in the 
Q&amp;A,=
 =93In my opinion, we=92re past the notion of OA as a threat to publishers =
as there are many examples of OA publishers who run a perfectly healthy bus=
iness.=94<u></u><u></u></p>

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e-height:normal"><u></u>=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margi=
n-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal">The=A0 
Q&amp;A can b=
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n-bottom:0cm;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal"><a 
href=3D"http://po=
ynder.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/elseviers-philippe-terheggen-on-state.html" 
ta=
rget=3D"_blank">http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2013/10/elseviers-philippe-te=
rheggen-on-state.html</a><u></u><u></u></p>

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