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[BOAI] On Author/Publisher Agreements

From: Stevan Harnad <amsciforum AT gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 3 May 2013 09:53:56 -0400


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On Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:08 AM, <brentier AT ulg.ac.be> wrote:

> Elsevier's policy is now clear:
> *Accepted author manuscripts 
(AAM)<http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-acc=
ess/open-access-policies/article-posting-policy#accepted-author-manuscript>
> *: Immediate posting and dissemination of AAM=92s is allowed to personal
> websites, to institutional repositories, or to arXiv. However, if your
> institution has an open access policy or mandate that requires you to pos=
t,
> Elsevier requires an agreement to be in place which respects the
> journal-specific embargo periods. Click 
here<http://cdn.elsevier.com/asse=
ts/pdf_file/0018/121293/external-embargo-list.pdf> for
> a list of journal specific embargo periods (PDF) and see our funding body
> 
agreements<http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-access/open-access-policies=
/funding-body-agreements> for
> more details.
>
Let us all ask ourselves the following question:

"Why, if Elsevier's *author* agreement is what it says it is, does 
Elsevier
feel it needs a *further agreement with the author's institution*?"


Is a rights agreement not something between the author and the publisher?

The answer is simple: Elsevier knows perfectly well that an author's
agreement that states *authors retain their right to post their AAMs to
their institutional repositories, immediately* means that their *authors
retain their right to post their AAMs to their institutional repositories,
immediately.*

So the only way to try to prevent institutions from requiring that their
employees *exercise* that right is to try to get the *institution* to sign
an agreement with the publisher that over-rides that right!

*Advice for authors:* Post your AAMs to your institutional repositories,
immediately.

*Advice to Institutions: *Don't sign any agreements with publishers about
what rights your employees may or may not exercise.

Stevan

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">On 
Fri, May 3, 2013 at 9:08 AM,=
  <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:brentier 
AT ulg.ac.be" target=3D"_bl=
ank">brentier AT ulg.ac.be</a>&gt;</span> 
wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"=
><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 
0px 0.8ex;border=
-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;=
padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Elsevier&#39;s policy is now 
clear:</div><div><table=
 border=3D"1" style=3D"border-spacing:0px;width:779px;border:1px 
solid rgb(=
188,188,188);border-top-left-radius:6px;border-top-right-radius:6px;border-=
bottom-right-radius:6px;border-bottom-left-radius:6px;margin:12px 0px 
35px"=
>
<tbody><tr><td 
style=3D"margin:0px;padding:8px;border-top-width:1px;border-=
right-width:0px;border-bottom-width:0px;border-top-color:rgb(188,188,188);b=
order-top-style:solid;border-left-style:none;color:rgb(56,56,56);font-size:=
12px;text-align:left">
<font color=3D"#000000" size=3D"3"><span 
style=3D"background-color:rgba(255=
,255,255,0)"><strong><a 
href=3D"http://www.elsevier.com/about/open-access/o=
pen-access-policies/article-posting-policy#accepted-author-manuscript" 
styl=
e=3D"text-decoration:none" target=3D"_blank">Accepted 
author manuscripts (A=
AM)</a></strong>: Immediate posting and dissemination of AAM=92s is 
allowed=
 to personal websites, to institutional repositories, or to arXiv. However,=
 if your institution has an open access policy or mandate that requires you=
 to post, Elsevier requires an agreement to be in place which respects the =
journal-specific embargo periods. Click=A0<a 
href=3D"http://cdn.elsevier.co=
m/assets/pdf_file/0018/121293/external-embargo-list.pdf" 
style=3D"text-deco=
ration:none" target=3D"_blank">here</a>=A0for a list of 
journal specific em=
bargo periods (PDF) and see our=A0<a 
href=3D"http://www.elsevier.com/about/=
open-access/open-access-policies/funding-body-agreements" 
style=3D"text-dec=
oration:none" target=3D"_blank">funding body 
agreements</a>=A0for more deta=
ils.</span></font></td>
</tr><tr 
style=3D"background-color:rgb(247,247,247)"></tr></tbody></table><=
/div></div></blockquote></div>Let us all ask ourselves the 
following questi=
on:</div><div 
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><blockquote 
style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px">
<div class=3D"gmail_extra" style>&quot;Why, if 
Elsevier&#39;s <i>author</i>=
 agreement is what it says it is, does Elsevier feel it needs a 
<i>further =
agreement with the author&#39;s 
institution</i>?&quot;=A0</div></blockquote=
>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div 
class=3D"gmail_extra">Is a rights=
 agreement not something between the author and the 
publisher?=A0</div><div=
 class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div><div 
class=3D"gmail_extra" style>The answe=
r is simple: Elsevier knows perfectly well that an author&#39;s agreement 
t=
hat states <b>authors retain their right to post their AAMs to their 
instit=
utional repositories, immediately</b> means that their <b>authors 
retain th=
eir right to post=A0their AAMs to their institutional repositories, immedia=
tely.</b></div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra" style><br></div><div 
class=3D"gmail_extra" style=
>So the only way to try to prevent institutions from requiring that their e=
mployees <i>exercise</i> that right is to try to get the 
<i>institution</i>=
 to sign an agreement with the publisher that over-rides that 
right!</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra" style><br></div><div 
class=3D"gmail_extra" style=
><b>Advice for authors:</b>=A0Post=A0your AAMs to your 
institutional reposi=
tories, immediately.</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra" 
style><br></div><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_extra" style>
<b>Advice to Institutions: </b>Don&#39;t sign any agreements 
with publisher=
s about what rights your employees may or may not exercise.</div><div 
class=
=3D"gmail_extra" style><br></div><div 
class=3D"gmail_extra" style>Stevan</d=
iv>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br></div></div>

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