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[BOAI] Re: Harnad Comments on Proposed HEFCE/REF Green Open Access Mandate

From: Stevan Harnad <harnad AT ecs.soton.ac.uk>
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 17:00:49 -0400


Threading: [BOAI] Harnad Comments on Proposed HEFCE/REF Green Open Access Mandate from amsciforum AT gmail.com
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On 2013-03-14, at 1:13 AM, Nick Thieberger <thien AT unimelb.edu.au> 
wrote:

> But what if the article is in an OA journal that would like to have the 
hit count for
> downloads from its site? Is there scope for the mandate to cover only 
non-OA
> journal articles perhaps?

That would be an exceedingly bad solution, for authors, for their institutions
for their research and for OA.

And institutions would lose a simple, natural, powerful and uniform way to 
monitor
mandate compliance by their authors.

And what's more important: hit/download counts for authors, for their own 
articles,
and for their institutions, or hit/download counts for publishers' sites?

But in any case there's a simple (though silly) compromise:

All articles (whether subscription or Gold, emargoed or not) must be 
immediately
deposited in the author's institutional repository.

Where the author either wishes to comply with a non-OA publisher's embargo
on Green OA, or with a Gold-OA publisher's desire to have hit/download counts
for its site, access to the deposit need not be made OA (until the embargo
elapses or until the author tires of accommodating publishers' importunate
nonsense).

Stevan Harnad

> 
> Nick Thieberger
> Editor
> Language Documentation & Conservation Journal
> http://www.nflrc.hawaii.edu/ldc/
> 
> 
> On 14 March 2013 11:16, Stevan Harnad <amsciforum AT gmail.com> 
wrote:
> Full Text: http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/994-.html
> 
> Executive Summary: The proposed HEFCE/REF Open Access [OA] mandate -- that 
in order to be eligible for REF, the peer-reviewed final draft of all journal 
articles must be deposited in the author’s institutional repository immediately 
upon publication, with embargoes applicable only to the date at which the 
article must be made OA – is excellent, and provides exactly the sort of 
complement required by the RCUK OA mandate. It ensures that authors deposit 
immediately and institutionally and it recruits their institutions to monitor 
and ensure compliance.
>       For journal articles, no individual or disciplinary exceptions or 
exemptions to the immediate-deposit are needed, but embargo length can be 
adapted to the discipline or even to exceptional individual cases.
>       Embargo length is even more important for open data, and should be 
carefully and flexibly adapted to the needs not only of disciplines and 
individuals, but of each individual research project.
>       Requiring monograph OA if the author does not wish to provide it is 
not reasonable, but perhaps many or most monograph authors would not mind 
depositing their texts as Closed Access.
> 
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