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[BOAI] Re: Wrong Advice On Open Access: History Repeating Itself

From: "BANDARA,Swarna" <swarna.bandara AT uwimona.edu.jm>
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2009 17:38:24 -0500

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This is an interesitng question.
> Elsevier acccepts the post-print publication
> under the conditon that one does not use the
> Elsevier logo.
>
Elsevier has cleaer guidelines for preprint archival for most of their ↵
journals. Here is the extract and the link
"An author may post his version of the final paper on his personal Web ↵
site and on his institution's Web site (including its institutional ↵
repository). Each posting should include the article's citation and a link to ↵
the journal's home page (or the article's DOI),"
"The author does not need our permission to do this, but any other posting ↵
(e.g., to a repository elsewhere) would require our permission. By ‘his ↵
version' we are referring to his Word or Tex file, not a PDF or HTML downloaded ↵
from Science Direct—but the author can update his version to reflect changes ↵
made during the refereeing and editing process.”
http://newsbreaks.infotoday.com/nbreader.asp?ArticleID=16436

> Can anymore please answer the pre-print question:
> will a commercial publisher accept that one put
> on one's institution IR the pre-prints of the
> papers to be later published in their journals?

A paper can be archived in an IR as a technical report before the publication. ↵
In fact this give the author the opportunity to add more details as there is no ↵
restriction on the length of the paper. Some scietists look in IR for detailed ↵
technical reports when they fund an interesting artcle that is published.  When ↵
the article is published one can alwasy archive the preprints as well, if the ↵
publisher allows that.
I agree that no one should publish with the publishers who would not allow ↵
institutional archvial.

Thanks

Swarna Bandara
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Subject: [BOAI] Re: Wrong Advice On Open Access: History Repeating Itself

Quoting Françoise Salager-Meyer <francoise.sm AT gmail.com>:

> >I agree that the only solution is aN INSTITUTIONAL MANDATE. My ↵
question is:
>
> In view of the fact that all researchers want to
> publish in top-notch jornals (the 5.000 core
> journals), isnt' there an incompatibility between
> the pre-print publishing of peer-reviewed papers
> and the subsequent publishing of the papers in
> one such journal? Will the publisher agree that
> the pre-print be published?

What is 'core' changes over time - the more you support free OA journsls, the
more likely it is that they will enter the core.

> I have a problem, for example, with the
> commercial publisher Peter Lang. It does NOT
> allow me to put in my institutional repository
> the papers (post-print) that have been published
> in Peter Lang books.

Don't publish with publishers that won't allow post-print archiving - go with
those that will. Or, better, publish in true OA journals.

> Elsevier acccepts the post-print publication
> under the conditon that one does not use the
> Elsevier logo.
>
> Can anymore please answer the pre-print question:
> will a commercial publisher accept that one put
> on one's institution IR the pre-prints of the
> papers to be later published in their journals?

That is a decision for the individual publisher - there is no general answer.
Some will, some won't.

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